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Page 1 of 2 1 2 Next > Jun 8, 2009 #1 TetchyPete Question for the watch gurus on here. Say I spent $2000 on a pre-owned Omega Speedmaster, could I expect it to increase in value or at least keep pace with inflation? Cheers   Jun 8, 2009 #2 strat1117 It's very hard to predict. A lot depends upon condition and relative scarcity. It depends upon exactly which Speedmaster but, assuming you are paying a fair price for it now, and assuming that it is an automatic movement (i.e., NOT quartz, and preferably an early vintage, a newer, co-axial movement, or a real collectors piece -- like a limited edition moon landing watch), Speedmasters are popular among collectors and, therefore, should hold its value reasonably well. Of course, fashions come and go, so you never know for sure. The watch everyone wants today could be tomorrow's trash -- or vice versa. I believe the main criteria in buying a used watch (again, assuming the price is fair to begin with) should be: 1. Do you like it? and 2. Can you afford it? If the answer is yes to both of those questions, then go ahead and treat yourself and enjoy it. If you ever decide to sell and you get your money back or more, then that is a bonus. IMO, beautiful watches were meant to be worn and enjoyed, not just collected as investments. I hope that helps. Good luck!   Jun 8, 2009 #3 blantyre I doubt that "mass produced" quality watches like Omega, Breitling or Rolex will increase in value over time. These companies keep rolling out and marketing new models and the old ones, unless absolutely mint become cheaper over time. The few exceptions are rare versions of classics like the moon lander Speedmaster or the original Doxa T-graph that get a following who will pay high prices. Some super high end watches like Patek Phillipe might increase I suspect due to the limited supply.   Jun 8, 2009 #4 Austin Moderator Emeritus It all depends on the rarity of the watch, availability, condition and demand. There are a ton of vintage watches out there that are not worth very much. Vintage Omegas are usually good investments but don't overpay for them. If you bid on ebay, you need to limit your bid to what you think it's worth. I have seen bidders overpaying for Omegas due to the bidding war mentality. A vintage moon phase Omega may be worth $2000 to a collector but not that much to you. You have to make the assessment yourself.   Jun 8, 2009 #5 mretzloff blantyre said: ↑ I doubt that "mass produced" quality watches like Omega, Breitling or Rolex will increase in value over time. These companies keep rolling out and marketing new models and the old ones, unless absolutely mint become cheaper over time. The few exceptions are rare versions of classics like the moon lander Speedmaster or the original Doxa T-graph that get a following who will pay high prices. Some super high end watches like Patek Phillipe might increase I suspect due to the limited supply. Click to expand... Actually, vintage Rolexes have increased a lot in value. Look up the price for a red Seadweller or an orange-handed Explorer. Granted, modern Rolexes will never achieve this feat... Pateks are able to hold their value because PP offers lifetime service on all the watches they make. So if you have your grandfather's watch from the early 1900's, all you need to do is send it to Geneva (and then wait as they take forever to repair it). Other companies, such as Rolex, tend to stop offering service after 30-ish years. EDIT: To the original poster, look at it this way: most companies increase their prices one to three times a year. So, realistically the price will increase and you will have a return on your "investment", however, you'd make much more if you put that money in an index fund.   Last edited: Jun 8, 2009 Jun 8, 2009 #6 mparker762 mretzloff said: ↑ Pateks are able to hold their value because PP offers lifetime service on all the watches they make. So if you have your grandfather's watch from the early 1900's, all you need to do is send it to Geneva (and then wait as they take forever to repair it). Other companies, such as Rolex, tend to stop offering service after 30-ish years. Click to expand... Or less; once it's no longer the current model then good luck. Plus they're making it difficult for 3rd party repair shops to get parts, so you're doubly scr*wed if you plan on holding on to it for awhile. They were under a court order from the 60's to make parts available to non-Rolex service centers, but the courts lifted that a couple of years ago and they're back at it. I've sold off all my other Rolexes except my coca-cola GMT Master II and once the economy recovers I'll be selling it too.   Jun 8, 2009 #7 FrankPoole Depends on whether or not it shows up in "hit" movie. Rolex took off after James Bond wore one in his movies.   Jun 8, 2009 #8 slcsteve Sometimes they do. For example; In 1971 I purchased a new Rolex Daytona Cosmograph for $365. I sold the watch in 1993 for $6500. If you do some research you'll find that this same watch brings upwards of 20K - more if it happens to have the "Paul Newman" dial, which mine had. I bought it because I liked it and it replaced my first Rolex, a basic Submariner that I bought at a PX in Vietnam in 1967 for $112. Buy what you like and if it ends up a collectors item consider yourself fortunate. If not, wear and enjoy what you've chosen. By the way I don't own any Rolex watches now and generally wear a Seiko when I even wear a watch.   Jun 8, 2009 #9 mretzloff mparker762 said: ↑ Or less; once it's no longer the current model then good luck. Plus they're making it difficult for 3rd party repair shops to get parts, so you're doubly scr*wed if you plan on holding on to it for awhile. They were under a court order from the 60's to make parts available to non-Rolex service centers, but the courts lifted that a couple of years ago and they're back at it. I've sold off all my other Rolexes except my coca-cola GMT Master II and once the economy recovers I'll be selling it too. Click to expand... Hmm, I did not know that about the court order. Thanks for the info.   Jun 8, 2009 #10 mparker762 mretzloff said: ↑ Hmm, I did not know that about the court order. Thanks for the info. Click to expand... Turns out it was a consent decree. Here are the details of the settlement from 2006 with the DOJ deciding that it was no longer necessary to monitor Rolex for anticompetive practices. Took them all of two years to get back in the old swing of things.   Jun 8, 2009 #11 FrankPoole Remember the "greater fool" factor is most important in collectibles. Value depends on who wants it so badly to pay a particular price. The collectible market is fickle.   Jun 8, 2009 #12 mretzloff FrankPoole said: ↑ Remember the "greater fool" factor is most important in collectibles. Value depends on who wants it so badly to pay a particular price. The collectible market is fickle. Click to expand... True, but there are MANY collectors of vintage watches. Just look at Antiquorum. It's an auction house that sells just watches. Interestingly enough, some watch makers, such as Patek Philippe, have been accused of bidding on their own watches to raise the prices.   Jun 9, 2009 #13 Aevum only in special cases, collectors units, specialy crafted units, or maybe a production series that had a special feature, the rolex slcsteve mentioned at first didnt carry a rolex movement, it carried a Zenith el primero movement, an agreement which lasted untill Zenith was bought by the LVMH group, those rolexes are considered among the finest of the daytona series and are saught after by collectors, a Zenith powered daytona can fetch more then a brand new Rolex powered one,   Jun 9, 2009 #1 IWC-Saint-Exupery/IWC-Saint-Exupery/IWC-Saint-Exupery/IWC-Saint-Exupery/zfbgvnjx. breitling bentley replica watches uk4 Thebigspendur Buying any watch with the idea it will be like an investment is bad, bad, bad. Very few watches even keep pace with inflation. A new watch loses 50% of its value when you walk outside the shop. Vintage watches lose much less. Whether a watch increases in value or remains the same depends on factors you can't anticipate like a certain watch becoming the in watch or a market suddenly develops for it. Some old watches like Heuer Autavias and Carreras have gone up quite a bit but you could never anticipate that years ago. Watches that are super expensive and limited editions sometimes go up in price but you have to find the person who is willing to pay the price and sometimes you can't give them away. In general Rolex watches hold their value about the best only because they are always in demand and in short supply and many colect them.   Jun 9, 2009 #15 knlgskr For me a watch is for telling time and nothing more. Patek Phillipe in 1968 was +- $100. more than Rolex and worth it. My first & only watch ever. Purchased because research told me it was/is the finest watch manufactured.   Jun 10, 2009 #16 krevo mretzloff said: ↑ Actually, vintage Rolexes have increased a lot in value. Look up the price for a red Seadweller or an orange-handed Explorer. Granted, modern Rolexes will never achieve this feat... Pateks are able to hold their value because PP offers lifetime service on all the watches they make. So if you have your grandfather's watch from the early 1900's, all you need to do is send it to Geneva (and then wait as they take forever to repair it). Other companies, such as Rolex, tend to stop offering service after 30-ish years. EDIT: To the original poster, look at it this way: most companies increase their prices one to three times a year. So, realistically the price will increase and you will have a return on your "investment", however, you'd make much more if you put that money in an index fund. Click to expand... I got an 1655 Explorer II orange hand when I graduated high school. My dad bought it from a friend of his for $900 dollars. It's doing okay right now   Jun 10, 2009 #17 mretzloff krevo said: ↑ I got an 1655 Explorer II orange hand when I graduated high school. My dad bought it from a friend of his for $900 dollars. It's doing okay right now Click to expand... Hmm, consider yourself lucky. I know guys who would die to get one.   Jun 11, 2009 #18 krevo She's all original, 1973. Looks like absolute ass, but that's all the more reason to put it on. Lemme know if you want to take a look. I'm active on Rolexforums.com My sub date and explorer I are my daily drivers.   Jun 13, 2009 #19 Aevum theres a tudor oyster prince for 350 on another forum, im really tempted to pick it up, btw, tudor is rolex´s second brand,   Jun 16, 2009 #20 Tazbo mparker762 said: ↑ Turns out it was a consent decree. Here are the details of the settlement from 2006 with the DOJ deciding that it was no longer necessary to monitor Rolex for anticompetive practices. Took them all of two years to get back in the old swing of things. Click to expand... Hmm, I wonder what model of Rolex the guys overseeing the DOJ proceedings got? :O   (You must log in or sign up to reply here.) Show Ignored Content Page 1 of 2 1 2 Next > Share This Page Tweet Your name or email address: Do you already have an account? No, create an account now. Yes, my password is: Forgot your password? Stay logged in Badger & Blade Forums > Everything Else > The Speakeasy >
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